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Nigel Goodfellow

One thing that Mike didn't really touch on is referrer spam. So far, I've only heard of this happening to me, but when I check my refer list, there are, like, 30 entries at a time from the same domain. Curiously, I go see if a link to my site is on there or something, and it just ends up being some porn site. Wow, eh?

Honus

Mike, why wouldn't randomly generated text letters (the kind screen reader software could catch) work? Are the spam bots that smart?

Bart N.

I have been doing the same thing for about a year now ( for instance my emailadres here is phark - @ - percept.be ) and it's been quite effective so far. I had one problem when a spammer started generating random adresses but they allways kept a part of the emailadres the same so I was able to filter on that.

It's currently one of the best ways to block spam but unfortunatly not something a lot of people can do.

Mike

On all of the sites where I've seen this technique used, they use images. I'm assuming that there is a reason they don't use text, and the intelligence of spam bots might just be it.

Mike

Hey Bart - That "randomly generated" names thing happened to me a few weeks ago, and that's what prompted this big crackdown on spammers. I was getting 50+ a day addressed to random names, and I couldn't take it anymore.

Bart N.

Spambots are quite smart and the most advanced once are even able to read images ( that's why the text on such "code" images is usually rendered in some strange font with some random background. This way it's a lot harder for the bots to extract the text from them ).

Nicole

My main tactic is to let my Yahoo account manage spam. If I sign up for any service or account, I give them my Yahoo account. Spam filters there catch nearly everything, and I generally get only a couple spam messages a day in my inbox.

Only the most trusted friends (or those I know won't give my name out at websites for those stupid "fill out this quiz" websites), professional acquaintances, or for resume purposes is my nicoleswan.com email available. Well, and for enterprising website visitors that find it on my "about" page. Through careful watch, I've managed to keep my domain accounts spam free. *knock on wood*

kartooner

I use knowspam and like countless others (Brad Choate comes to mind) I've seen a reduction in my spam versus legitimate emails ratio.

I was amazed that in 2 weeks time I received over 100,000 spams and all because I used my actual email to sign up for various web-related services a few years back. My fault, I know.

Now it feels good to actually have a healthy email box without the clutter. Granted I could have used Spam Assassin or Thunderbird's junk mail filters for cheaper alternatives but I think I made a wise choice.

I also could have just as easily created a new address and dumped my old one but that would defeat the purpose of having an email address doesn't feel impersonal (like yahoo, hotmail, etc.)

When GMail goes live for public use I'm going to set up an account as a spam catcher and at 1GB it means I won't have to check it as often.

Honus

I do the same thing Nicole does. Yahoo's filter works shockingly well. The only spam I seem to get in my inbox is JC Whitney's catalogue. MSN's Hotmail spam filtering really blows, because it always sends emails from my father into the trash, and putting him on my safe list has been flaky. I am lucky though that I don't get a whole lot of spam there (it's basically exists just so that I can get emails people send me if they can't remember if I'm at Hotmail or Yahoo - AHEM, Mike, cough cough).

I wish I had some more advanced techniques at my disposal, but without my own site based email, that's not going to happen. I have to say Mike your cleverest trick is giving yahoogames@phark etc and seeing who is selling your info.

As far as bots go, I find it odd that they're good enough to decipher not just text but photograph ones too. That's downright diabolical.

hass

Great tips! And I third the vote for Yahoo mail, they've just upgraded there mail features and it's working great.

Scott

Yeah add me onto the Yahoo list. I've been using them for mail for about 4 years or so and with the exception of probably 2 weeks I've been pretty much spam-free for years.

Occasionaly a good email will slip into the Bulk folder but what can you do. :)

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